Meeting minutes
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Discrimination concepts
<ghurlbot> Issue 190 [Concept]: Discrimination Concepts in RISK (by coolharsh55)
accept concepts
Rights Impact concepts
<ghurlbot> Issue 184 Add Rights Impact concepts for each Right (by coolharsh55)
harsh: Question continued from last discussion: do we include requirements?
paulRyan: +1 merit in doing this work as it also helps meeting rights requests
beatrizEsteves: +1 agree with paul, it makes sense to model the whole process
paulRyan: its an area where we are weak in, we have worked a lot of DPIA and other processes, but never delved into what the processes actually are
tyttiRintamaki: +1
delaramGolpayegani: +1 might be helpful for fundamental rights impact assessment under the AI Act
catarinaSilva: +1
conclusion: group agreed that we should include requirements for rights and other processes in general. This requires further discussions and exploration of concepts / methodology, so we will do this for DPV 2.2.
Guide for Machine Actionable Rights
<ghurlbot> Issue 191 Create a guide for Machine-Actionable Rights (by coolharsh55)
beatrizEsteves: submitted what I had for materials to DPV dev branch on github. Next steps is to create a sequence diagram for what is involved in exercising a right - what we discussed last time with Georg. It would be good for people to go over it and start a discussion on it.
DPIA concepts
<ghurlbot> Issue 183 Represent activities where DPIA is required in EU-GDPR (by coolharsh55)
tyttiRintamaki: concepts are done - to be reviewed by harsh; will submit on Github for people to review and discuss; there are some issues that require inputs from people
harsh: then we put it on the agenda for next week (tytti: yes)
paulRyan: there are two steps in DPIA where the first one is whether a DPIA is needed e.g. EDPB guidelines on what needs a DPIA
tyttiRintamaki: yes, I have factored in all EDPB and EU/EEA DPA guidelines
Integrating AIRO/VAIR
<ghurlbot> Issue 143 Integrate AIRO/VAIR concepts for AI and AI Act vocabulary (by coolharsh55)
delaramGolpayegani: mapping of AIRO to VAIR - wording is different e.g. risk mitigation and risk control
delaramGolpayegani: we also need to check/map risk controls in DPV
harsh: we have measure to follow the legal meaning of mitigation measure and risk ontology/extension has the generic term control used in risk management
delaramGolpayegani: there is a concept called detectsRiskConcept as it refers to detecting events which in DPV are modelled as risk concepts (so they can take up multiple roles)
harsh: lets call it to detectsEvent?
delaramGolpayegani: not great due to temporal connotation of 'event'
harsh: lets go with what you have for the moment
delaramGolpayegani: for domains - the criticial infrastructures have been modelled as concepts
delaramGolpayegani: if we don't have domain then for some purposes e.g. determining high risk and prohibited AI or technical documentation - DPV won't be sufficient on its own
harsh: we use it with NACE?
delaramGolpayegani: does it have a formal representation?
harsh: yes, in RDF! https://
delaramGolpayegani: specific parts of AIRO/VAIR will be going in to specific extensions
delaramGolpayegani: area of impact - how to model this? As sector? Is it different?
delaramGolpayegani: ai subject - how do we model this? It is not the same as data subject.
harsh: how do we reuse data subject taxonomy as we already have a nice list there?
harsh: option, we define human subject and move concepts there - but that will break existing uses of data and we should ensure minimising any breaking changes. Will need to think about this.
14: 55:35 <harsh> delaramGolpayegani: human involvement concepts are present - but not explicitly for humans only
harsh: these are generalised as entity involvement, but we don't have
Next Meeting
next meeting will be in 1 week on TUESDAY 05 November at 13:30 WEST / 14:40 CEST. Agenda will be discussing AIRO/VAIR integration, selecting the next set of items/issues on GitHub with any updates on github/mailing list and AOB.